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Checkride failure

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Hello,

If a student pilot failes the flight portion his checkride for the second time, do they need to redo the entire checkride again (ground and flight)? or just the items on which they had failed?

Thank you,

Oren.

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  1. John D. Collins on Feb 15, 2012

    The answer is yes, just the items they failed need to be repeated, but there is a time limit.  See 61.43 for details. I have excerpted the relevant sections below:

     

    (c) If an applicant fails any area of operation, that applicant fails the practical test.
    (d) An applicant is not eligible for a certificate or rating sought until all the areas of operation are passed.
    (e) The examiner or the applicant may discontinue a practical test at any time:
    (1) When the applicant fails one or more of the areas of operation; or
    (2) Due to inclement weather conditions, aircraft airworthiness, or any other safety-of-flight concern.
    (f) If a practical test is discontinued, the applicant is entitled credit for those areas of operation that were passed, but only if the applicant:
    (1) Passes the remainder of the practical test within the 60-day period after the date the practical test was discontinued;
    (2) Presents to the examiner for the retest the original notice of disapproval form or the letter of discontinuance form, as appropriate;
    (3) Satisfactorily accomplishes any additional training needed and obtains the appropriate instructor endorsements, if additional training is required; and
    (4) Presents to the examiner for the retest a properly completed and signed application.

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  2. Kris Kortokrax on Feb 15, 2012

    The 60 day language in 61.43(f)(1) is interesting in that some time ago, the FAA changed the 60 day timeframe to 2 calendar months (see 61.109(a)(4), 61.129 (a)(3)(v) for examples).
     
    61.39(d) and (e) use the 2 calendar month language also.
     
    (d) If all increments of the practical test for a certificate or rating are not completed on the same date, then all the remaining increments of the test must be completed within 2 calendar months after the month the applicant began the test.
    (e) If all increments of the practical test for a certificate or rating are not completed within 2 calendar months after the month the applicant began the test, the applicant must retake the entire practical test.
     
    Another thing to consider is the wording in the PTS.  On page 9 of the Private Pilot PTS it states:

    However, during the retest, and at the discretion of the examiner, any TASK may be reevaluated,

    including those previously passed.

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  3. Oren on Feb 15, 2012

    So during this 2 calendar months period, the student would only have to be retested on the items he failed without having to repeat the entire checkride? Even if he failed the checkride more than twice?

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  4. Kris Kortokrax on Feb 15, 2012

    Notice that the language is 2 calendar months “after the month the applicant begah the test”.  Hence, if the applicant began the test on February 3, 2012, he would have until April 30, 2012 before he would again need to accomplish the complete practical test.  Also, worthy of note is the fact that this extra time does not extend the date of expiration for the knowledge test.  If the applicant’s knowledge test expires on March 31, 2012, then he would need to retake it, if the practical test has not been successfully completed by that time.
     
    You also need to make sure that the required endorsements, which are required within the 2 calendar month period have not expired.
     
    Your statement “would only have to be restested” seems to imply that the applicant may only be retested on the tasks listed on the “Notification of Disapproval”.  This is not true.  For instance, if the applicant failed Steep Turns and on a subsequent ride satisfactorily performs the Steep Turn, but fails to correct for a crosswind and examiner intervention is required, the applicant would fail the practical test, even though the Steep Turn was performed correctly and even though he had previously executed a crosswind landing on a previous check.

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  5. Oren on Feb 18, 2012

    If the student decided to change instructors after failing the checkride, and now being retrained by a new instructor, what endorsements should be given to the student by the new instructor before the sdudent can take the checkride again?

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  6. Kris Kortokrax on Feb 18, 2012

    Obviously, the 61.49 endorsement is required for a retest.  I would also endorse according to 61.39 for the retest.
     
    If the applicant is a student pilot and his 90 day solo endorsement has expired, you will need to deal with that as well.

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