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PIC vs. dual time

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I routinely fly with an older individual who owns his own airplane.  It is a C 172 and only requires one pilot.  I routinely fly as PIC because all of my licenses are up to date.  My question is whether or not I log dual time as well as PIC due to the second pilot operating the a/c at times, or do I only log PIC time?  Thanks for your help.

kyle riddle

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  1. Gary Moore on Feb 07, 2011

    There’s already alot writting about logging of time on this forum – you should search around and read those excellant posts….
    Basically you can log the time you are the sole manipulator of the controls.  If you are a CFI – you can log the instruction given if the student is flying.  You would only log time as ‘Dual’ if you are the one receiving the training.

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  2. Wesley Beard on Feb 07, 2011

    Gary is correct!  There is a difference between logging PIC time and acting as pilot in command.  The answer to your question of whether or not you log it as dual is found in 61.51(h).  The pertinent part states “authorized instructor”.  The authorized instructor can be CFI’s (with appropriate ratings) or authorized pilots (with/without a CFI) under Parts 121, 135 or 142.
    If your older individual is manipulating the controls, you cannot log anything even though you are acting as the pilot in command.  In this situation, only the person that is manipulating the controls can log PIC time.  The older individual can log PIC time when they are not current to fly the airplane…  they just cannot act as pilot in command.

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