Welcome Guest. Sign in or Signup

2 Answers

Cirlce to land

Asked by: 730 views Instrument Rating

Lets say I'm flying an ILS approach runway 36 at XYZ airport, circle to land runway 18, at the MDA and before the MAP, I clearly have the runway references in sight for 36 but not  runway 18, can I still circle to land, and stay within the required radius or do I have to go missed? Do I need the runway references in sight for that specific runway I am circling too or can I have the airfield or the runway 36 in sight and still circle?

And part two, with circling approaches we have the specified radius to maintain from the desired runway, how do we know if we are flying within that given radius? Is it just by best educated guess?

2 Answers

  1. John D Collins on Jul 13, 2017

    What you need to keep in sight is covered in 91.175 (e) (2). I will leave it to you to quote 91.175 (e) (2) if reading it does not answer your question.

    Since obstacle clearance is only evaluated within the circling radius appropriate for your category of aircraft or speed, it behooves you to remain within the radius and to know where you are. The circling radius is a maximum, and often you will need to be closer to the airport if visibility is at the minimums. Remember the circle is a visual maneuver and you must be in visual conditions to see and avoid any obstacle.

    +1 Votes Thumb up 1 Votes Thumb down 0 Votes

  2. R. Anderson on Jul 20, 2017

    Also, to add to John’s answer above, keep in mind that when conducting a “circling approach” you are visually circling at or above the MDA using an identifiable part of the airport, not the runway. Of course, to descend below the circling MDA minimum, you must be in compliance with 91.175 (c), which would apply to the runway you are intending to use.

    Some airports are so large (expansive) enough that you would not necessarily see the actual approach end of the runway you are circling to at the published visibility minimum. To complete the maneuver you would actually start the turn toward the landing runway using the airport environment for visual reference and not see the actual end of the runway you are circling to until a later point in the maneuver.

    Circling approaches during minimum published visibility conditions can be very risky and should only be done in full consideration of the hazards involved. For this reason, many Part 121 air carriers do not permit circling approaches at all. Some restrict circling to weather conditions at or above VFR (1000/3). But, circling using published minimums is necessary for some Part 121 carriers because of the airports they operate to. These crews must be specifically trained on circling approaches if they are authorized to be conducted.

    Next, with respect to part 2 of your question, take a look at AIM para. 5-4-20. You will see what the obstacle-considered circling radius is based on. The pilot is responsible for remaining inside of the appropriate obstacle protected airspace. There is not much (or any at all) clearance from obstacles when you are at the MDA outside of the protected airspace, so be very careful during the day and especially at night.

    Finally, currently published circling approaches designed prior to late 2012 will have a smaller (by radius) protected airspace than those designed after late 2012. The new procedures add a bit of safety because the distance away from the airport you may circle will be (generally) greater. Thus, required bank angle while turning (to stay within protected airspace, for example), will be less. This increases safety and often, because the new protected airspace is larger, the minimums will be higher. Please review the AIM and some approach plates to understand what the protected airspace provides by way of obstacle clearance and the specifics of the older and newer designs.

    +1 Votes Thumb up 1 Votes Thumb down 0 Votes

Answer Question

Our sincere thanks to all who contribute constructively to this forum in answering flight training questions. If you are a flight instructor or represent a flight school / FBO offering flight instruction, you are welcome to include links to your site and related contact information as it pertains to offering local flight instruction in a specific geographic area. Additionally, direct links to FAA and related official government sources of information are welcome. However we thank you for your understanding that links to other sites or text that may be construed as explicit or implicit advertising of other business, sites, or goods/services are not permitted even if such links nominally are relevant to the question asked.