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Help me understand this ILS

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http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1611/05089IL23.PDF

This approach has me stumped. If I'm using RICKE as the IAF, how can I get to RICKE to shoot the approach? There is a feeder route to RICKE from the FDK VOR so how would I identify RICKE using dual VORs if VOR1 is set to 047 radial from FDK and VOR2 is set to 273 radial from EMI. Is there a way to get permission to track EMI R-273 to get to RICKE and continue outbound for the approach? Why is the procedure NA in the first place for those radials? Is it possible for ATC to give me instructions to proceed direct to RICKE using the GPS? 

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  1. John D Collins on Oct 25, 2016

    You always have look at an approach in the context of the surrounding airways. The note you refer to only applies to airways and coming from those directions to EMI would require a course reversal at EMI.

    There is also a feeder route from FDK to the IAF, 047 radial 4.8 NM at 2800 MSL. Using this feeder route, you identify RICKE with the FDK 047R and EMI 273R.

    If you are GPS equipped, ATC can clear you direct to RICKE, but you need to do the PT.

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  2. Russ Roslewski on Oct 25, 2016

    You seem to answer some of your questions within the question itself.

    > If I’m using RICKE as the IAF, how can I get to RICKE to shoot the approach? There is a feeder route to RICKE from the FDK VOR

    Yes, that is how you would get to RICKE, using the published feeder route.

    > so how would I identify RICKE using dual VORs if VOR1 is set to 047 radial from FDK and VOR2 is set to 273 radial from EMI.

    That’s exactly how you would do it. Track the FDK 047 and wait for the EMI 273 to center up, then you know you’re at RICKE and can begin the course reversal.

    > Is there a way to get permission to track EMI R-273 to get to RICKE and continue outbound for the approach?

    Not as such. EMI 273 is not a published route segment. It is merely a crossing radial to identify RICKE. As long as you are above ATC’s Minimum Vectoring Altitude, though, they could let you do it if you wanted, although it would be nonstandard.

    > Why is the procedure NA in the first place for those radials?

    John answered this one.

    > Is it possible for ATC to give me instructions to proceed direct to RICKE using the GPS?

    John also answered this one. Yes, you can be cleared direct to RICKE, but only as the IAF (where you then have to do the course reversal), NOT as the FAF where you just proceed straight in. If that second option is what you really want (standard vectors to an approach), then you’ll be vectored to intercept final a few miles outside of RICKE, not direct to RICKE.

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  3. curiouscat on Oct 25, 2016

    Thank you!!

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