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Logging Command

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When senior pilots fly together, (both have ATPL's) do they both log command? Thanks!

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  1. Wes Beard on Dec 19, 2013

    No. They are required to follow 61.51(e) just like everyone else.

    There are situations where two pilots can both log PIC time.

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  2. kerizbro on Dec 19, 2013

    Adding on to this,

    Does SIC time (safety pilot) count toward total time the regionals are looking for with the 1500hr rule?

    — Chris

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    Kris Kortokrax on Dec 19, 2013


    Two pilots holding an ATP or (1 ATP and 1 Commercial) could both log PIC, if one ATP acts as PIC of an operation requiring an ATP (61.51e2) and the other pilot is manipulating the controls (61.51e1i).


    First, if the safety pilot agrees to act as PIC, he can log PIC, not SIC.
    Second, see 61.159c1i, which would appear to allow counting SIC time toward the 1500 hour total time requirement.

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  4. Wes Beard on Dec 20, 2013


    I knew that already and was covered under what I said about following the regulations. Thanks for clarifying for those that didn’t look up what it said.

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  5. Mark Kolber on Dec 21, 2013

    Chris, to answer your safety pilot time question, from the FAA’s perspective, the time counts toward the basic FAA qualification for 1500 hours of flight time.

    But, that’s just basic qualification. The bare minimum the FAA requires.

    Airlines and charter carriers, regional or not, have the right to set their own requirements, so long as they are not lower than the FAA’s. So, whether or not a particular company counts safety pilot time toward its own requirements is entirely up to the company. Generally, the word on the street is that they don’t, but that will vary with the available pool of employable pilots.

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