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Lapsed Pilot Flooded Out . . .

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Some years back when I was active I was flooded out in Houston Texas (April 2009).  I lost my logbook to that flood, as well as all of my pilot stuff (except for the metal E6B!). I'm now in the process of becoming recent; I'm taking online courses, will be taking the lapsed pilot course on the AOPA site, buying new equipment and etc.  So, short story long - what do I do about my log book? Just start a new one?  I am a private pilot VFR/ASEL . .  .

Thanks!  

Mark

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    KDS on Nov 07, 2019

    It depends on how much time you had before and what you want to do in the future.

    If your desire is to continue at the private pilot level, you already have everything you need as far as logbooks go. All you need to do is buy a new logbook and start recording time for the purpose of maintaining a record of currency and flight reviews. Of course, you also need a new medical.

    If you wish to use past flight hours towards meeting the requirements for an instrument rating or commercial certificate, you should try to reconstruct as much of your logbook as you can through whatever means are available to you. I see that it has been a very long time since you received a medical, so the odds of being able to find receipts or training records at the flight school or pretty slim. One record that is relatively easy to obtain even though it was decades ago is a copy of your FAA Form 8710-1 that you submitted for your practical test for your private pilot certificate. If you took a flight physical after you were a private pilot, those have total hours on them and you can obtain them from the FAA the same as your old 8710-1.

    Here is what you do for the FAA Form 8710-1 (and any other airman records):

    https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/copy_of_certification_records/

    Here is a form to request your medical application:

    https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/medical_certification/media/MedicalRecordsRequestForm.pdf

    Rest assured that having lost a logbook puts you in a rather large club. A lot of pilots have been in the same situation for one reason or another.

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  2. KDS on Nov 07, 2019

    There is no need to do much of anything if you just want to start flying again as a private pilot. You’ll need a new logbook, a flight review, the three takeoffs and landings, and a new medical and then you’re good to go.

    If you want to use your old flight time for the purpose of applying for a new rating or certificate, you will want to do whatever you can to reconstruct as much as you can. You can get medical and airman certificate records from the FAA. Given the amount of time that has transpired, you will be unlikely to get information from other sources.

    You can make a statement of your flight time and for the FAA’s purposes, that should be sufficient. However, a lot of people will look at the same guidance and still manage to come away with different opinions on what suffices.

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  3. Craig on Nov 07, 2019

    Agree with the previous 2 respondents.

    If do want to try and reconstruct your logbook….

    If you trained at a flight school or rented a plane from a flight school/service that had some kind of electronic scheduling system, you could try calling them to see if they could pull up some of your old records since they would probably have billed you for the flight time and some electronic schedulers automatically track your flight time. It’s kind of a long shot since it was so long ago.

    You could also try to contact one of your instructors or anybody with whom you flew to see if they could help.

    fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=8900.1,Vol.5,Ch1,Sec8

    5-172 LOST LOGBOOKS OR FLIGHT RECORDS. Inspectors should advise airmen that they may reconstruct lost logbooks or flight records by providing a signed statement of previous flight time.
    A. Proof of Experience. Airmen may use the following items to substantiate flight time and experience:

    · Aircraft logbooks,

    · Receipts for aircraft rentals,

    · Operator records,

    · Copies of airman medical files, and

    · Copies of FAA Form 8710‑1, Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application.

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  4. KDS on Nov 08, 2019

    I really wasn’t losing it when I answered twice. The first one was submitted and then hours later wasn’t posted. So, I wrote that off to something did not work correctly and wrote a similar answer. Then today, I see both of them there.

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  5. MarkFSanderson on Nov 08, 2019

    Thanks to everyone for answering – I had completely forgotten they’d have my hours on my med record. I went td through independent instructors, and I believe I’ve contact info for my instructor in Houston. The only hours relate issues that it might take more hours get a complex sign-off . . . I don’t see a need for an IFR rating at this point. Perhaps seaplane/floats is in the stars – not sure. I’ll certainly be sending the FAA a request for records . . . or calling them?

    Thanks Again!
    Mark

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  6. John D Collins on Nov 10, 2019

    KDS,

    I can’t vouch for whether or not you are losing it. 🙂 But,

    the reason for the late posting of your first post is that sometimes your responses end up not posting and a moderator has to approve them. My guess is that the site detects something it does not like and blocks them as potential spam. A moderator can approve the post, which is what I did. I am not an official moderator, but Paul has granted me the privilege. I normally view the site at least once per day and review any unposted responses and if they are not selling cialis, I approve them. It all depends on when I get around to looking at the site. I might miss a few days if I am flying or traveling.

    I will sometimes see that a duplicate post was made and can delete the duplicate. In your case, your stuck response was better IMHO than the second post that made it, so I approved the first post and left the second one as is.

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