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Sport & Recreational Licensed Pilots – Eligible for PIC Credit for Dual Instruction towards PPL Certificate?

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So.

Imagine you have a Sports Pilot Certificate. Better yet, say you hold a Recreational Pilot Certificate so you can fly a larger heavier Cessna 172. Such a certificated pilot is no longer a "student pilot" as per the little plastic green card. Correct?

Am I correct in assuming that any further dual instruction received in training towards a private pilot certificate is therefore counted as PIC time?

This may prove significant if one is ever seeking a commercial certificate later where 100 hours of PIC time are required. See Below.

* 250 hours total flight time
* 100 hours in powered aircraft (50 minimum in airplanes)
* 100 hours PIC to include 50 hours cross country:

 

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  1. PedroThePilot on Nov 17, 2018

    Just as a quick follow up, I was unable to amend/edit my preceding question. I indeed have looked at FAR 61.51

    Excerpts:

    (e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time. (1) A sport, recreational, private, commercial, or airline transport pilot may log pilot in command flight time for flights-

    (i) When the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated, or has sport pilot privileges for that category and class of aircraft, if the aircraft class rating is appropriate;

    I am just still a little unsure what it all means. So as a specific example, can a Recreational Pilot in a Cessna 172 getting Dual XC instruction log that as PIC time?

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  2. Mark Kolber on Nov 17, 2018

    Yes. It means exactly what it says, no more and no less. Many people try to read all sorts of conditions exceptions into it, but there aren’t any.

    So, in your specific example, a recreational pilot with an ASEL rating printed on the back of his certificate may log PIC time any time hevis the sole manipulator of the flight controls of a 172.

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