Comments on: Should you contact ATC during practice approaches? http://www.askacfi.com/1545/contacting-atc-during-approaches.htm Flight Training Questions Answered Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:02:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Warren http://www.askacfi.com/1545/contacting-atc-during-approaches.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1497 Warren Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:26:26 +0000 http://www.askacfi.com/?p=1545#comment-1497 I have heard/read that Yes, Flight Following would indeed be one of the various ATC services that pilots would be charged for under proposed User Fees in the USA. This service is charged for in other countries now, that have a Fee structure. Most countries have a fee structure for aviation. This is because in most countries there is very little of what we call General Aviation going on, and where it does go on, the pilots are quite rich anyhow. Only in America do average middle class folks have a pilot's license and possibly their own personal aircraft... The word needs to get out about how onerous User Fees will be; I think most GA pilots in the USA have No Idea what is in store for them with the proposed User Fees. I have heard, in speaking to an FAA official off the record, that there will probably be charges for a Weather Briefing, Filing a Flight Plan, Using ATC Flight Following, Practice Approaches, Using Airways, Entering Class Bravo and Class Charlie, and of course, Class Alpha, airspace, etc. In Australia, after the inception of the User Fee system, general aviation was immediately cut back dramatically. The same thing will happen here... Happy New Year folks and flyers, and welcome to The New Obamerica, where you will be regulated, taxed, and charged Fees for everything you can think of, and some things you have not thought of yet... I have heard/read that Yes, Flight Following would indeed be one of the various ATC services that pilots would be charged for under proposed User Fees in the USA. This service is charged for in other countries now, that have a Fee structure. Most countries have a fee structure for aviation. This is because in most countries there is very little of what we call General Aviation going on, and where it does go on, the pilots are quite rich anyhow. Only in America do average middle class folks have a pilot’s license and possibly their own personal aircraft… The word needs to get out about how onerous User Fees will be; I think most GA pilots in the USA have No Idea what is in store for them with the proposed User Fees. I have heard, in speaking to an FAA official off the record, that there will probably be charges for a Weather Briefing, Filing a Flight Plan, Using ATC Flight Following, Practice Approaches, Using Airways, Entering Class Bravo and Class Charlie, and of course, Class Alpha, airspace, etc. In Australia, after the inception of the User Fee system, general aviation was immediately cut back dramatically. The same thing will happen here…
Happy New Year folks and flyers, and welcome to The New Obamerica, where you will be regulated, taxed, and charged Fees for everything you can think of, and some things you have not thought of yet…

]]> By: Jeff http://www.askacfi.com/1545/contacting-atc-during-approaches.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1410 Jeff Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:16:43 +0000 http://www.askacfi.com/?p=1545#comment-1410 You wrote: >that’s why they are there (and for now it’s still a free service) Yikes! I've heard of the potential for increased landing fees, but fees for flight following? It needs to be encouraged, not discouraged. You wrote:

>that’s why they are there (and for now it’s still a free service)

Yikes! I’ve heard of the potential for increased landing fees, but fees for flight following? It needs to be encouraged, not discouraged.

]]> By: Paul http://www.askacfi.com/1545/contacting-atc-during-approaches.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1408 Paul Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:39:14 +0000 http://www.askacfi.com/?p=1545#comment-1408 Hi Matt, Your right about context. The context of this question is 2 pilots who I assume both either have an instrument rating or are well into their instrument training. I understand that it might be an extreme to say you should contact approach EVERY time you conduct a practice approach, but if you can, I think it is great practice. As Chris pointed out, "why not?" Thanks for your comments and feedback. Paul Hi Matt,

Your right about context. The context of this question is 2 pilots who I assume both either have an instrument rating or are well into their instrument training. I understand that it might be an extreme to say you should contact approach EVERY time you conduct a practice approach, but if you can, I think it is great practice. As Chris pointed out, “why not?”

Thanks for your comments and feedback.

Paul

]]> By: Matt Kreps http://www.askacfi.com/1545/contacting-atc-during-approaches.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1406 Matt Kreps Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:26:36 +0000 http://www.askacfi.com/?p=1545#comment-1406 I would have to say that context has a lot to do with this decision. Students new to the IFR world will quickly become overworked talking to ATC and dealing withe the frequency changes but to obtain your Instrument rating you will have to do it at some point. Safety should be the number one priority and to say it is less safe to be on with approach is silly. I would have to say that context has a lot to do with this decision. Students new to the IFR world will quickly become overworked talking to ATC and dealing withe the frequency changes but to obtain your Instrument rating you will have to do it at some point. Safety should be the number one priority and to say it is less safe to be on with approach is silly.

]]> By: Chris C. http://www.askacfi.com/1545/contacting-atc-during-approaches.htm/comment-page-1#comment-1405 Chris C. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:38 +0000 http://www.askacfi.com/?p=1545#comment-1405 Another reason -- why not? In IFR, an approach involves communicating with ATC. If you are practicing for this, why not include all of the workload involved in the real thing, including the ATC communications? Another reason — why not?

In IFR, an approach involves communicating with ATC. If you are practicing for this, why not include all of the workload involved in the real thing, including the ATC communications?

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